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Navigating Life's Paradoxes: Analysis Paralysis, The Power of Spontaneity, and Embracing Positivity Amid Chaos

December 06, 2023 • Apex Communications Network

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Join us, as we weave through the winding paths of surrender, fate, and the surprising power of spontaneity. Inspired by the inventive genius, Dr. Forrest Bird, we unpack the role of fate, time, and circumstance, and share thought-provoking insights into how sometimes, just showing up and being open to opportunities can unlock unforeseen paths to success.

We discuss our journeys and the pitfalls of overplanning. Learn how fear and overthinking can stifle your progress, and why taking action, trusting your gut, and embracing repetition is a game-changer. We emphasize the fine line between planning and overplanning, the value of innovation, and the importance of seeking guidance. Our conversation takes you on a transformative voyage, empowering you to trust your instincts and make that leap of faith.

We discuss the challenges of everyday life, and the importance of taking breaks, and share a little about our social media adventures. Join us for a conversation that's as real as it gets, filled with wisdom, positivity, and a fair share of laughter. 

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Speaker 1:

Good morning, roger. Good morrow. Good morrow, is that like saying you're telling me good morning for tomorrow?

Speaker 2:

All of the above You're prepping. Good mornings, good mornings, good morrow A fortnight. Yes.

Speaker 1:

Dude, there was a stage in my life where I wanted to bring that word back Fortnight. I was actively trying to. Yeah, I wonder why I got bullied in high school. It's probably because I tried to bring back fortnight Before fortnight was a game. I was just talking about the length of time. I was trying to actively use it in my vocabulary and I wonder why I got bullied.

Speaker 2:

The um, I mean fortnight's a good word. It's funny I forget Just because I like pushing people's buttons. My nephews and some of my gennies, genies, family, they all obviously their younger nieces and nephews they all play fortnight and every time I hear them bring it up I'm like do you know what that means? You can tell me what that means I'll play with you, and how many of them can answer it?

Speaker 1:

Even with the massive popularity of what fortnight is.

Speaker 2:

I don't think I've ran into one kid who actually knows what that word means. Do you know what it means? It's a period of two weeks, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I just explained how I was trying to use it, to bring that word back in high school.

Speaker 2:

Well, bringing a word back in, actual word comprehension are two different things. That's fair, I'm not going to say that. I'm going to say that.

Speaker 1:

That's fair. That's fair. Well, the contrary to popular belief, this podcast episode isn't going to be about etymology of words. There's another vocab for you etymology.

Speaker 2:

I love big words.

Speaker 1:

We're going to be jumping back into a 52 Theses episode today. We figured it would be great to kick off the last month of the year with a little bit of reflection on points and things of that nature. So we're just going to do the three points, we'll go over them, rj will share our thoughts on them and then we can let you get on with your day. Thank you for coming and hanging out with us. If this is your first time visiting us, my name's John, and RJ is the co-host. We are the co-founders of Apex Communications Network here in Cayenne, ohio. Started out as just a podcast about five years ago and now we're a full-blown marketing agency. So if you need any help with marketing lead generation, if you're an HVAC contractor, an electrician, a plumber, a construction organization, if you sell products online and you need somebody to help with your Google Ads, a lawn care company I could go on and on we can probably help you out. Shoot us a message, jan, looks like Jan at chasetheapexcom.

Speaker 2:

You forgot one. James would be so upset with you.

Speaker 1:

Digital accessibility. Don't tell me, I said that.

Speaker 2:

We'll edit that one out.

Speaker 1:

Oh Lord.

Speaker 2:

I won't directly tell him, james and I handle that?

Speaker 1:

Do you think he listens to these episodes?

Speaker 2:

Absolutely not. No, hell, no, he for sure. As big as a fucking hard time he gives me to do TechTuesdays with him or whatever, there ain't no way. That's the thing is. If we did that, there ain't no way in hell he'd listen to his own voice.

Speaker 1:

No, no, what time did he have Right?

Speaker 2:

Exactly.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So the theme of these three basically is going to be kind of about surrendering to the outcome and also making sure that you are rooted inside of values and virtue, which I think are two very big things. I actually just recorded a podcast episode this past Friday on a podcast called Wealthy AF, and we kind of talked about values and the way that sometimes it can feel like you're in control and other times it can feel like the world is controlling you. So this first one that's listed on here is we're all victims of fate, time and circumstance, and I first heard this line from a gentleman named Dr Forrest Bird. You guys may have heard me talk about him before on this show.

Speaker 1:

Dr Forrest Bird was the inventor of the ventilator, the G-Suit and a whole bunch of other things. Exited by selling a lot of his businesses to larger medical manufacturing firms. He also sold products to 3M In the inventor's hall of fame, just all around. A crazy dude right New the Wright Brothers, new Henry Ford, interesting, interesting guy and he happened to be really good friends with my dad, so he used to come over for dinner all the time and we'd go up and see him at the inventor's hall of fame. Drove out to Idaho for his 80th birthday party at his I don't even know what you would call it mountain compound. He had like a full blown helicopter like bunker at his house, not just a helo pad, I'm talking like open up the side of a mountain bunker, type Batman shit.

Speaker 2:

Dude, that's sweet, I would have. I'd just become Batman at that point. You have to, you have a responsibility to do that.

Speaker 1:

You have the money and the inventive knowledge, you have a responsibility to change your name legally to Bruce Wayne and he used to anyway. So he used to say this we're all victims of fate, time and circumstance all the time. And I remember him saying it in response to when people would ask him hey, what you know, what is your secret? How did you develop your, your journey? You know, how did you become so successful? And he was like I was just, I was just in the right place at the right time. He was like I can't explain it to you in any way, shape or form. I don't know how this played out inside of my life, but I stayed curious and I stayed open to things. And you know, I didn't choose to be born into a family that knew Henry Ford. I didn't choose to be born in an era pre inventing the ventilation and the ventilator. Right, I didn't choose a lot of these things that were around him, but he said that what he did choose is to acknowledge the fact that he didn't really have control of when he was born. He didn't really have control of when he got placed here, but he did have control over what he did with the time that he was here for and that's the part that I always really enjoyed.

Speaker 1:

And I kind of hear that right now like, oh, I was born in the wrong generation or oh, if only I had been born when the housing market wasn't shite, you know, or you know other types of stuff, and I said you know, okay, would you really would have been born during, or the Great Depression, or immediately post the Great Depression, or you know what the world was like during the roaring twenties? Yeah, I mean, history books kind of look fondly back upon that, but you could also have died from typhoid, like very cool, you know. So you don't really get to choose the era that you're born in. Some people have are born inside of an era where there's economic boom. Some people are born in eras where they're not. Some people are born in eras where there's prosperity. Other people are born in countries where that country's never even seen prosperity. We're all kind of victims of that fate time in circumstance.

Speaker 1:

But I loved the second half of that that he always tacked on. But it's up to us to choose Like we can accept that, and it's up to us to choose what to do with the time we do Because we're here. So that's kind of the story behind that statement and I guess a little bit of my take on it Passing the torch, let's see, let's see. On a side note, have you ever had these Chobani drinkable yogurts?

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, they're awesome.

Speaker 1:

Well, I'm not sponsored by Chobani, but these things are the shit. They are 17 grams of carb, 12 grams of protein, super, super delicious. Unless you're lactose intolerant, then you would already know not to drink this.

Speaker 2:

I have toes, all right.

Speaker 1:

Take me back to nursing.

Speaker 2:

I don't see without toes. In terms of the first quote, I pretty much have to say that that is basically just. My entire life is fade, time and circumstances. I went to a bachelor party not too long ago and the gentleman that we were there for with the for the bachelor party, he basically summed it up that I don't know if it was I hate to say jealousy or whatever it may be, but it kind of made me turn around and look. But he's just like dude, shit just falls in your lap.

Speaker 2:

For no, for inexplicable reasons shit just falls in into your lap 95% of the time. I'm like. At first I kind of took offense to that, I guess. Did you think my life's been easy? Well, I'm not going to sit here and say that my life's been hard, because I've seen people with a lot harder, more difficult lives than my own. But the more I thought about it and the more that I've talked with him, it's not so much a knock to, I guess, my work ethic or what I've worked towards, but more that I have been very lucky or graced with opportunities that have laid out, been laid out in front of me. But I've also chosen to stick with those things and see them through.

Speaker 2:

Because that's a big one. Because when I dated my one ex-girlfriend who you know, she very much did not like me fiddling around doing a podcast when I could be working another job or something like that, because it wasn't paying the bills or whatever, until I actually one day sat down and talked with her dad and I think it's because he heard her giving me a hard time about it and he was like dude, if you're having fun, you're sitting in rooms with people. You'll never get another opportunity to sit in a room and talk to just casually. He's like, regardless of the money, the experience in the networking that's there is worth it tenfold, regardless of what anybody thinks about it. And he's just like, if he's like, if I were you, I would not be giving that up.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I double click on that. I think about that a lot, especially that second half, the rooms that we were able to sit in or the people that we were able to talk to early on, or just it's crazy, absolutely crazy.

Speaker 2:

But and then also within that same relationship, it was nothing but fate, time and circumstance that I met you, which has led to all this.

Speaker 2:

So I have I do truly believe that if and I I've had to go back and kind of look at like why I think these opportunities or situations or people have been put in front of me, and I've seen people like me who have had similar situations where they just walk face first into the best things that have happened to them in their entire life, and I will truly say that I think of the reason that that happens to people like me, or the common denominator between me and in people who run into those simple situations is You're very outgoing, you're willing to listen to other people and you're you're personable.

Speaker 2:

The 95% of the reason I know as much gossip as I do at the gym or I've been put in front of the people that I've been put in front of is because I'm willing to sit there and listen. I'm willing, willing to converse, and I'm I genuinely like to think that I'm a likable person and people like having me around, and the more personable you are, the more willing people are to kind of bring you into their inner sanctum and the things that they're doing on their side of the life and wanting to make you a part of it.

Speaker 1:

I would agree with that wholeheartedly, especially people that, um, because you have to fill up. In order for somebody to want to invite you into their environment, you have to fill their cup up right, you can't just be constantly pouring out of their cup into yours. So that being able to be personable and listen to people and be genuinely interested in what they're telling you is a big piece. Mm-hmm, big piece, yeah, all right. Well, um, so that's a fake, fake time in circumstance. So the second one, um, I think kind of applies to maybe somebody that um doesn't feel quite as outgoing, or maybe they're wondering you know, why aren't things falling in my lap as often? You know, jan and RJ are talking about becoming entrepreneurs on accident in the way. Yeah, um, why isn't that kind of happening to me?

Speaker 1:

And so the second point um is overplanning. Can fear freeze you in fear. Get out there and do it, make mistakes and learn Um. Classic analysis, paralysis, um. And so for those of you that aren't familiar with what analysis paralysis is or what overplanning um, you know why it can kind of freeze you Um, a lot of times we can get inside of our head, and especially because we have limitless access to technology. Now. Um, if you really want to, you could spend 10 hours a day, and I've done this. You could spend 10 hours a day listening to podcasts, reading articles about a decision that you need to make, and end up just as confused as when you started that morning.

Speaker 2:

Oh 100%.

Speaker 1:

Um, and it just kind of gets. It can get worse the further you dive down that rabbit hole, Um. So one of my rules of thumb and I actually got this from boxing and kind of like ju-ju-ju, but martial arts in general, right, the martial arts that I practice Um, when you're in the middle of a match and you'll probably relate to this too, RJ, because of wrestling when you're in the middle of a match and like, life is actively trying to fuck your world up, Uh, and it might not even be in a bad way, right, Like, because sometimes positive things entering your life can feel like an avalanche. Um, so, whenever you're in the middle of that zone and things are just kind of, you know, rustling in, um, you don't really have time to sit there and analyze. Well, okay, well, he's putting his right foot forward and his left hand is moving upwards, which means I need to do this. And maybe if I, if I counter this way and if you exist in that part of your brain in the middle of a match, you're gonna get your ass kicked. Um, because as important as your conscious mind is in that moment, it's not as important as you think it is. Um, because it's going to delay your decision-making, and even in that sense it's even by a couple of seconds Yep Could completely dictate the tone of the match and whether or not you feel like you're behind trying to catch up to that person or you feel like you're um, you know, playing your fight If you're fighting your fight or wrestling your match versus reacting to somebody else's offense. So I would A try to actively notice. Notice when you're in that piece of like, you're in that decision-making thing.

Speaker 1:

If you have a big decision that's coming up and all you find yourself just constantly consuming information, consuming information, consuming information. I would challenge you to try to take a step away from consuming the information. Just sit down in the quiet, whether you decide to journal or write stuff down, or just kind of sit there for like 20 minutes, even just 20 minutes on no music. Just sit there, kind of let stuff bubble up and then decide okay, this is where my gut is telling me to go, now that I've consumed all this information, and then go with it.

Speaker 1:

You're not going to be perfect. The decision is always going to have positive and negative consequences, some of which you'll never be able to predict, and like that's life, you just got to move. I know people that are in their fifties, late forties, um, that just, I think permanently got stuck on a single decision and that's a part of their personality. At this point is like, ooh, yeah, if I would have done that things would be different. Like, okay, yeah, if you would have and you still can, why haven't you done it?

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

You know. So that's kind of the danger I think with with overplanning. On the flip side, you don't just want to be able to China shop. I'm not advocating for you to just like run off a cliff with no parachute, but make sure that you recognize. You know, if it's been three months and you've read 400 articles or you've talked to 15 people, it's probably time for you to just make a decision.

Speaker 2:

So um, since you were talking about wrestling, I'll I'll back it up to wrestling as well, or basically any sport. I think I could. I think I could wrap this around any sport. The issue that I have with, I guess, the statement of overplanning, because I am someone who, regardless of what it is, I don't really do anything without like looking it, looking into something and researching it heavily beforehand, and I guess that goes like super. My friends will get, I guess, aggravated with me, because anytime we play a new game, I can't just boot it up and play in, learn as I go.

Speaker 2:

I've already watched like four different YouTube creators and watched multiple articles about what the best you know, optimization of your time is, what's the best paths for characters, what you should do here, what you should do at this level, at like anything, and I've always been like that. I do like a plethora of research beforehand and I don't know if that like alleviates some of the anxiety, but I I know why people do it, because I do it myself. But there's a difference in knowing what you need to do and actually being able to execute that which you know you need. So at some point there, at some point, you need to get the repetitions in. There's a reason in almost all sports that they say you needed to become muscle memory.

Speaker 2:

Right right, you're a pitcher. You know what it feels like when you're going to throw up 90 mile per hour fastball. You can, you can tell by the mechanics of your body. You can read in a book all day. You know at the at the top of here and I need to release the ball ball there and this is how I, this is how you know. To create more spin I need to do a two seam over a four seam or really any anything in anything specific.

Speaker 2:

But if you, if you've put that amount of planning in, do the equal amount of work in the repetitions, that it becomes muscle memory so that that that that knowledge in planning doesn't go to waste. Because you can. You can know everything in in the book. You can go to school to be a personal trainer and know all of this stuff about the biomechanics of the body and how joints are supposed to move and what exercises are you know stimulating what muscles. But unless you're actually in the gym, putting the repetitions in those little fine motor movements make a big difference between pointing your toe on an exercise or curling, curling your foot up or how I mean do it right now.

Speaker 2:

So stand off to the right of the camera. I know we don't view these, but if you're doing a curl with your arm running three to three to nine, so your elbow to your shoulders three to nine like a front double bicep. So if you turn in in anybody listening, so curl your arm like you're flexing your bicep to the side. Now face your palm forward and look and look at your bicep in the, the peak on your bicep. Now tuck your thumb underneath your fingers and just turn your wrist in like back, back towards your ear. Now turn your turn your fist out like torque. Now turn your fist in. There you're, you're. You're not holding any weight, you're not we pumped up in the gym or whatever. But the the 90 degree turn from your palm facing forward to your palm facing facing your ear changes the shape and the overall look to your entire arm.

Speaker 1:

Right, that's kind of wild. I got a little mad at me, less than there.

Speaker 2:

So long, long, long, long story short. You need to do, you need to put what you've learned and what you've studied into practice so you can see it firsthand. And if you're just studying, if you're just studying something yourself, essentially you're only seeing that in which you're studying from the angle that someone else has looked at it. It's not truly your own perspective.

Speaker 1:

Right, yes, 100. Yeah, you have to actually do it. You have to actually do it. If I were still just watching Gary Vee videos and we weren't putting out pods on a regular basis, or if I wasn't writing content there's no way we'd have I'd be anywhere near where I'm at. And like I look back at, I listened to some of our earlier pods and they're like terrible. I mean, I think that they're some quality. Most people like them. They're still got a ton of listens, and that's the other thing too. You don't know how like to you it might seem terrible and other people will just continue to love it. That's one thing I've learned as a content creator. There's some episodes where I'm like, oh, that was a terrible episode and it's one of our higher performing episodes.

Speaker 1:

Well, I thought that the guys at the studio too, and they're like they'll put out a song and they're like I didn't really put much effort into that. 10,000 streams, yeah, oh, OK.

Speaker 2:

I think I honestly think a lot of the success from the podcast is because it was relatable and the time that it came out.

Speaker 1:

We didn't claim to be professionals.

Speaker 2:

We didn't claim to be Joe Rogan's or or you know anything like that. We were just a couple of dudes, a couple of dudes by the couple of mics, talking to some other dudes and sometimes ladies.

Speaker 1:

And then, like everybody, started hopping on the podcast train. The meme nowadays is like another, another white dude with a podcast.

Speaker 2:

Podcasts. We were some of the original white dudes with podcasts.

Speaker 1:

I was going to say, yeah, we could claim to be some of the OGs there back in 2018, 2019.

Speaker 2:

Well, even with, I mean, Christ, Joe Rogan and some of those bigger podcasts have been around were around way before that. So, if we felt we were on kind of the, the, the bleeding edge of what podcasts have become now. Those guys were fucking fishing in outer space at that point, Christ.

Speaker 1:

Right, right, well, and that's that's. Another thing too is that, if you're listening, the podcast game is kind of like the real estate market, like you can always complain about how saturated it is and then try to get in, but five years from now it's going to be even bigger than it is now. Listeners are still growing. It's still whooping the crap out of radio year over year. Like you're still early, and if you're listening to this and you're like, well, maybe it's too late for me to start a podcast, shut up, get out of your head shut up start a podcast.

Speaker 1:

You know, what you need. It's not for everybody, I'll say it's not for everybody, but if you, you know, find yourself talking to yourself all day, just turn a mic on. Unless it's telling you to do bad things, then go get meds. But what?

Speaker 2:

do you?

Speaker 1:

last one. Well, yeah, well, one thing before we move on to the last one. What do you think is the line between failing to have a plan? Is planning to fail and over planning can freeze you.

Speaker 2:

Wait, hold on. Hold on, Because I feel like those are two.

Speaker 1:

So on one side of the spectrum we have failing to have a plan is planning to fail, right. So that's, that's one side. And then the other side is having too much of a plan can freeze you in fear. So is it like, like where do you draw the line between when you start researching a game and you're like I'm ready to play?

Speaker 2:

Oh, honestly okay. So so recently, recently, world of Warcraft released like a seasonal event.

Speaker 1:

I was just talking to one of our clients, mitch, from shout out J dog junk removal Does he buy. Yeah, he was telling me about it this morning. He's like I haven't gotten any sleep. My blood is liquid, C4.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, dude, it's, it's bad and like I'm not like a ginormous I don't know World of Warcraft fan, like I've dabbled in it. I played like quite a few expansions with some of my buddies and stuff like that. But there's like two different types. There's retail and then they have classic. While which the retail, there's a, there is a lot to it.

Speaker 2:

There's so many different systems leveling systems, crafting systems, different builds for the same class and sub ways to play those, those classes underneath one class. It's nuts and I hopefully they tailor some of that back. But a lot of what they've been like like people have been liking recently, is classic because it's a hell of a lot simpler, like way simpler, and it has a lot of the old mechanics. All this stuff is still, like you know, super like unoptimized and busted, which is why I thought, ok, this shouldn't be too bad, I'll be able to come back and play and it won't be that bad. But this new season is called the season of discovery and they've added all of this new shit in here that wasn't in the base game, that they've tried to add for this season, or multiple seasons, despite things up, and there's nothing on the fucking Internet about it, nothing like there's just line.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like, and the thing is is they released all the notes. So there's like some of these runes that change your character's abilities or whatever, and we know that they're in the game, but when you go and search it online, they haven't been found yet by anybody. Oh geez. Like the entire craft community. Yeah, and honestly, there's a couple of times like because the guy that I'm playing.

Speaker 1:

Do these actually exist? Are these a conspiracy?

Speaker 2:

theory it is. It's like that and there's been times where, like over the weekend, I wanted to get on and I just had, like this overwhelming sense of dread that I'm like I don't know if I'm optimizing the character enough. Like, if I go in and do a raid or a dungeon with somebody, am I not pulling my weight because I don't know that I'm doing something wrong and it does become a lot.

Speaker 2:

But eventually you paid money for a game that you want to get some level of enjoyment out. So at some point you have to just buckle down and be like it is. It's going to be what it's going to be, and it can only get better, since you're you're playing, you're playing it right coming better at it. Getting reps in yeah, it's jump. Jump into the deep end, yeah, no, I very much, so many of times have just sat there and been like this is a lot for a 20 year old game.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 1:

I think the line for me is, like it kind of my rule of thumb is if I hear or see multiple things trending in the same direction in a period of time. So, like if I'm, this goes down to business decisions, because I mean, it's different when you make personal decisions versus business decisions versus aiming or whatever. I'll just use business decisions for this example Like if I'm just trying to decide between two different ways that we could take the company right. I generally am like I'm either going to find three there's going to be three other people that agree with me and have done it before or there's going to be people that disagree with this staunchly and I still think it's a good idea, right, and it's easy when you find three people that agree with you and you're like, okay, cool, I'm going to make this decision. I would challenge people, though.

Speaker 1:

If you really want to innovate, sometimes you have to take risks and really mess up.

Speaker 1:

Like that's the byproduct, like it's one of the pitfalls of being an innovator is that sometimes you take a risk and it doesn't pay off, that not every single risk that we've taken is paid off, but you find, if you have a decision in your head and you like really think, hey, based on me talking to my team, my guys like this really feels like a good idea, the momentum's there, we're really seeing this internally. And then you go outside of that little circle and you're like, well, what have other people done? Because I feel that way with James and the digital accessibility stuff right, because you guys are building this and we're setting a precedent. It's not like we have a whole lot of reference points. So most of the time I'm just like, yeah, you know, okay, the three sites that we saw here say that we can just use a automated app based layover for this site. Like that should be fine. And it's like, no, I know that's not right. So we're still going to move the other direction.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Like. So it is possible to have three people disagree with you and still, um, you know, take a leap in an opposite direction. All right, this last one, um, this was a quote from, um, my wrestling coach, uh, skip Lockman. He's referenced at least three times in this document. I need to reach out to that dude and be like hey man, thanks for having a positive impact on me as a, as a young and.

Speaker 2:

I, uh, I don't know he's. He's not coaching anymore, Is he Skip?

Speaker 1:

No, he retired my senior year. I don't know about his kids though, because Jimmy and Rocky Rocky.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Well, Rocky was my coach, but I know he's not at Jackson anymore.

Speaker 1:

I think he might be at Lewisville.

Speaker 2:

I think you're right.

Speaker 1:

That was the last time that I heard anything, but also, I don't know, I haven't. You know, we just uh, 10 years, 10 plus years out of high school at this point. Um, yeah you are you, you. I just I said 10 plus.

Speaker 2:

Oh, you said plus. I didn't hear that.

Speaker 1:

I said 10 plus. I was trying to be subtle about it, but you guys are, I'm old. Yeah, or Jason is 30s.

Speaker 1:

guys Um they don't need to know that, um, okay, so be a good man, then you'll be a good wrestler. So he used to say this all the time. All the time, um, and you know to relate it to everybody in the audience. All I'm going to do is like dissect that down a little bit. The most important thing is having virtues, being a good person, and if you can focus on building those things, you'll want to be good at the things you're participating in. If you're a terrible human, your might, your anger, might be able to get you so far as a wrestler or in life, but at some point that motivation's going to burn you out. You're not going to be a good teammate. You know there's a whole bunch of other things that come with that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Um, not, cause I do know some kids that were just like you know, um, in and out of in school suspension, had, you know, a whole bunch of rough stuff going on. But we're phenomenal on the mat to. Nobody wanted to train with them. Nobody wanted to. You know, show them extra moves and stuff like that. On the mats, nobody was willing to give them extra reps unless the coach had told us that we had to.

Speaker 1:

You know, it was hard to integrate them into the team, um, and so I always like to look back on this statement and think as long as I'm like I know what my value set is right, as long as I'm living within that value set, then all of the other things in my life I will naturally want to excel at because I'm focused on being the best version of myself. Yeah, so when I go to the gym, I'm excited to go to the gym because I'm working towards a better version of myself. When I'm listening to a podcast on building agencies, I'm excited to learn that information because I know it's going to be better for me. You know, when I, when we purposely plan social time with the team or going out with friends or networking with businesses and stuff like that. I know it's for the betterment and yeah, I so then I am able to look forward to it.

Speaker 1:

There's been times in my life where I haven't been living in accordance with my values and I kind of go off the rails a little bit and I just end up binge eating. I want. I'm like I find myself drinking all the time, like it becomes this slippery slope. When you kind of fall off that wagon and you're not wanting to be good to yourself, it kind of projects out into the world. So that's where that always kind of sits with me is like at the bare minimum or not at the bare minimum, but at the foundation of everything, having a good relationship with yourself and a positive relationship with yourself. Perception is what allows all those other things in life to be good and to actually for you to want to pursue them. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

That's it. Thank you, trump. I think yeah, I think that kind of well, this kind of ties in with my previous statement about why I feel things fall, or things fall into my lap or how they do. I do truly think you get out of the world and people what you put in and if you're putting your best foot forward unless they're just real scumbags I feel most people also reciprocate in kind with that same type of mentality, and so if you can wake up and go to bed feeling like you've done what you can for other people and you've been true with them and yourself, then you get a lot of that back, and then there's a lot of worry that's then negated in basically anything that you're doing, moving forward, because I do feel like in today's day and age, a lot of people are very weary of others.

Speaker 1:

Like distrustful, or just like on edge.

Speaker 2:

Well, you see, you see, I feel like there has been a large decrease in the idea of collaboration in a lot of social media, you see, like especially for like younger kids. You get it. You get it on your own. You do what's necessary to make your bread, make your bag. You do you.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I do see that a lot in my feed.

Speaker 2:

And there's nothing wrong with that and to a certain degree they're not wrong. They're not wrong.

Speaker 1:

There's stuff that you have with you.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and I, yeah, I wholeheartedly agree with that. But it's hard. It's hard to do everything on your own.

Speaker 1:

And we're not. We're community, we're community.

Speaker 2:

Like, yeah, there's reasons. People live in big, big cities and like conglomerate in a singular locations and stuff like that. It's just, I don't know. It's if I don't know, if you put your neck out there, other people will put their neck out for you. And to to the quote about being a good man if, if you're doing the best that you can, regardless of what it is whether it is wrestling, like the quote says, or your job, or your family or friends, or personal relationship, work, work relationships, whatever it could be People are not as emotionally inept as I think we like to think they are. I would. I would say most people can tell when someone's hiding something from them or not really their true self, or doing doing everything that they that they can.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, most people have a weird kind of sixth sense about that. I'm like a spider well some people are better at it than others, but agreed, but To some base level.

Speaker 2:

I think most people can tell when you're doing everything that you can, yes, and if you do that, it only. I've only experienced where that effort and that honesty and transparency Only doubles down to the people that you are. That with? What do they say? Negativity breeds more negativity. Yeah but it were, I it also. I strongly believe that it works the other way around good, big but gets good he gets good yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, it's just kind of depends on what type of snowball you're building and, yeah, what type of momentum you get it.

Speaker 2:

So I think if you, you do good, what is it? Look good, look good, do good, feel good, feel good, look good, something it good happens to you. Whatever you get, you get the idea. I forget, yeah, feel good. I don't know, it could be a multiple. Whatever you want to, whatever whatever you word you want to plug in there three times, you get the idea.

Speaker 1:

You put the word good afterwards and you're good yeah, no, yeah, I, I, that's 100% sure I. I think that's why it's so important. You know, every morning I kind of start the day off by trying to figure out a couple, just two or three things and I'm like I'm grateful for this. And some days it's literally just, you know, I'm grateful that I had a bed. That's some sometimes I've got. I've had weeks where I'm just like, fuck everything else, I'm just glad that I have this blanket, you know. And there's other times where I like it's really deep and profound and I'm like I'm grateful for, like the family that I had bubble and you don't know how it's gonna hit you.

Speaker 1:

But prior to starting that gratitude practice, I remember waking up and you know, kind of being at the mercy of the day and you know I decided if I was gonna be happy based on whether or not there was people in the Duncan drive-thru. If I hit, I need red lights on the way to work. Or you know, like I was at the mercy of the world and me having a good day was kind of dependent on all of those External things. But if you start the day off and you're like, okay, I'm gonna wake up and the first thing that I'm gonna put into my brain is Thank you for this, thank you for this, thank you for this. Then you end up going out into the world and you see stuff through that lens. Do you know not say you're not allowed to have bad days, because there are days where you wake up and you're like things are shite, my nose is clogged, I can't breathe. Oh, I had.

Speaker 2:

I had one of those. Okay, so anybody who knows me knows that I very rarely wake up in a bad mood. Even if I had, like the absolute worst day, yeah, let's just say I just had the worst week of my life. I Usually try to wake up and not let things roll into the next day. But goddamn Friday of last week I had to go over to Jenny's house and I said I'm just gonna be straight up with you. Everything's wrong today. Everything is just slightly slightly off and it is. It is I Want to. I told her. I was like I want to rip my mustache off right now, everything is just in in the.

Speaker 2:

The problem was it was fine in the morning because it was only like a handful of things, but as the day went on and everything was just Slightly off, it compounded, compounded and compounded, and I wanted to, I, I Put my head through the drywall. I wanted to, so bad.

Speaker 1:

I've had those days not having it. Oh my gosh, they're rare now. I used to have them a lot more often, a lot more often. Like I remember, when I was in the military, I used to have a lot of those days run like this is shit, but yeah, luckily those don't come around as often, thank God. Yeah, it's at the hospital too. It is really easy to have a shitty day at the hospital both late and and figuratively.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I hear Jordan talk about all of the poopy incidents.

Speaker 1:

That's one thing that I, uh, I do not miss. I will take the smell of this musty sm7b. Is it musty over? No, I'm not really, I'm just messing around, it's not much we did, you think I really left them.

Speaker 2:

It's been out of commission for a week.

Speaker 1:

It's been packed away for a little while. That's fair, that's fair. That's fair. Oh, that reminds me I need to go grab the other one out of the truck and bring it upstairs. Um, on that note, I think we're gonna wrap this up. So you've made it this far, you've earned 25 points everybody congratulations. Uh, we'll catch you next time. You can follow me on LinkedIn. Yon, looks like g and j and all the C. Doc holiday 92 1 everything and uh and pure pressure, rj and a posting more stuff. Okay, bye.

Speaker 2:

Oh, no, no, no no.